The Lakes Community - Powered By XMBProposing Ban On Texting While DrivingLCNN - 2-5-2010 at 12:28 PM
LEXINGTON HERALD-LEADER - After an almost hourlong debate, the state House on Thursday passed a measure that would ban text messaging by drivers while
a car is in motion.
House Bill 43 also would ban all uses of a cell phone for drivers under the age of 18 while in a moving car.
The measure was approved on an 80-16 vote, with three members not voting. It now goes to the Senate for its consideration.
Rep. Jody Richards, D-Bowling Green, said 24 teens lost their lives on Kentucky roads because they or another driver were distracted by a
communication device in 2009. Richards, the sponsor of the bill, said banning the use of all communication devices for teens until they are 18 would
help establish good driving habits.
The bill, he said, "is about saving lives and saving people from serious injury."CLICK HERE FOR REST OF STORY
boater4life - 2-5-2010 at 12:50 PM
I would hate to be the police officers who have to enforce this. I would think it would be very difficult.
squakmeister - 2-5-2010 at 01:08 PM
Question:
How many of you have been passed (at high speed) or had a
close call with an adult who drives and thinks like a teenager?
boater4life - 2-5-2010 at 01:25 PM
Me
Ace - 2-5-2010 at 01:55 PM
Me too and too often.
mcraftman - 2-5-2010 at 02:12 PM
Tennessee passed similar legislation a while back, heard on the radio the other day they have yet to issue 1 citation for a "texting" violation. Not
sure why.
E_HILLMAN - 2-5-2010 at 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by squakmeister
Question:
How many of you have been passed (at high speed) or had a
close call with an adult who drives and thinks like a teenager?
What does being passed at a high speed have to do with it.
Not being a smart arse just trying to understand the comment...
Awakening - 2-5-2010 at 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by squakmeister
Question:
How many of you have been passed (at high speed) or had a
close call with an adult who drives and thinks like a teenager?
Question.... how many of you have been passed at high speeds by cops without their lights on and while talking on their cell phones?
fun4all - 2-5-2010 at 02:49 PM
Answer
Why do we say question b4 asking the question? Isn't that what the ? is for.
squakmeister - 2-5-2010 at 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by E_HILLMAN
What does being passed at a high speed have to do with it.
Not being a smart arse just trying to understand the comment...
The bill contains provisions which address teenage drivers and I don't think being a teenager
makes them mutually exclusive as being the primary cause of accidents related to texting while
driving and thus using bad judgment. I've seen adults demonstrate bad judgment as well as
teenagers. See quote below.
Quote:
Originally posted by LCNN
Richards, the sponsor of the bill, said banning the use of all communication devices for teens until they are 18 would help establish good driving
habits.
KyAl98 - 2-5-2010 at 03:30 PM
I think it's the teen drivers who are doing the most texting. Most adults just dial and talk on the phone -
"Honey, do you need anything from the store before I get home?"
"Sure, milk and bread 'cos Squak says it's gonna snow - I'll be home in 15 minutes"
Teens on the other hand, would text back and forth at least 10 times to get the same thing accomplished.
Still - it's gonna be hard to enforce. How do you tell if someone is texting from the vantage point of another vehicle?
boater4life - 2-5-2010 at 04:01 PM
Teen drivers have less behind the wheel experience. When something goes wrong with a teen driver, the reactions are not as hard wired as a more
experienced driver. So, things can go south real fast. Texting requires more of their attention and gets in the way of their reaction time. I agree
that bad judgment can be exhibited by anyone but teens, for the most part, really don't need the distraction.
I have seen them texting but I think it will be hard to prove.
I have also seen folks of all ages reading while driving at interstate speeds... accidents waiting to happen.
Darren - 2-5-2010 at 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by boater4life
I would hate to be the police officers who have to enforce this. I would think it would be very difficult.
I would hate to have the police check my phone right after a serious accident and see that I was texting boater4life - 2-5-2010 at 05:41 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Darren
Quote:
Originally posted by boater4life
I would hate to be the police officers who have to enforce this. I would think it would be very difficult.
I would hate to have the police check my phone right after a serious accident and see that I was texting
Agreed!
rockinrod7 - 2-5-2010 at 05:54 PM
Just another STUPID LAW (in it's current form) on the books. What is the difference between a "teenager" (or anyone for that matter) texting while
driving, a woman putting on her make-up, grandpa trying to put cream in his coffee, man trying to unwrap his Whopper with cheese, etc, etc, ALL.
NOTHING
It is all inattentive driving and WE ALL DO IT!!!!! And in the end we are all responsible for our own actions? But thank goodness for the insurance
lobbyists for another STUPID waste of taxpayers time that will NEVER accomplish anything.
quickiemonster - 2-5-2010 at 06:01 PM
I agree with rockinrod. We don't need any more laws about any dam thing. DWHUI will always be the primary cause of accidents. If you don't want to
risk being in one, stay off the road.
Gasman - 2-5-2010 at 06:14 PM
The feds have done the samething for truck drivers
E_HILLMAN - 2-5-2010 at 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by rockinrod7
Just another STUPID LAW (in it's current form) on the books. What is the difference between a "teenager" (or anyone for that matter) texting while
driving, a woman putting on her make-up, grandpa trying to put cream in his coffee, man trying to unwrap his Whopper with cheese, etc, etc, ALL.
NOTHING
It is all inattentive driving and WE ALL DO IT!!!!! And in the end we are all responsible for our own actions? But thank goodness for the insurance
lobbyists for another STUPID waste of taxpayers time that will NEVER accomplish anything.
I'm with ya dude and there is already a law in the books to cover if they think you are driving carelessly or wrecklesly...
And I think I will set my phone to not save outgoing text...
ImaPoser - 2-5-2010 at 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by rockinrod7
Just another STUPID LAW (in it's current form) on the books. What is the difference between a "teenager" (or anyone for that matter) texting while
driving, a woman putting on her make-up, grandpa trying to put cream in his coffee, man trying to unwrap his Whopper with cheese, etc, etc, ALL.
NOTHING
It is all inattentive driving and WE ALL DO IT!!!!! And in the end we are all responsible for our own actions? But thank goodness for the insurance
lobbyists for another STUPID waste of taxpayers time that will NEVER accomplish anything.
Correct.
Babyboomer - 2-5-2010 at 09:49 PM
what I would like to know is how in the are they going to enforce it? what's the difference between texting and dialing a number, your still
punching keys. Oh officer I wasn't texting I was calling a number on my phone.
Bailey - 2-5-2010 at 10:03 PM
Good, I'm as guilty as the next person texting and looking at my BB. We all need to remember our responsibility earned when we were given a drivers
license. I really don't care how they enforce it but I sure can tell when someone is not paying attention...I guess it wouldn't be to hard to prove
if they stop you for reckless driving and check your phone bill. We all need to put them away and use hands free. You can always stop if it's that
important. It might be the most important stop in your life.....
onechick - 2-6-2010 at 12:14 AM
Take Oprah's "NO PHONE ZONE PROMISE"!!! I can talk, and I can text safely to an extent. However...when my adult children call while driving, I make
them hang up. Talking or texting at a red light is o.k.
daddeo - 2-6-2010 at 09:02 AM
Let's stop the texting where there is control -- with the wireless phone companies. Virtually all new phones that can text have GPS sensors that can
tell if the phone is moving. If the phone is moving faster than 10 mph, then no texting allowed. The phone company will not transmit the text.
Done. A friend of mine has a patent on this approach and is working with phone companies to implement this approach.
Daddeo
daddeo - 2-6-2010 at 09:05 AM
Previously I said phone have gps sensors. The phone companies can also use a process called triangulation to locate a phone and tell how fast it is
moving.
E_HILLMAN - 2-6-2010 at 10:31 AM
And then what about someone abducted that needed to send a text while abducted? Or what if someone was riding in a car and wanted to send a text?
Just enforce the current laws. Its easy to spot those that are tuning their radio, or texting, or eating or whatever and are being a danger to
others. It s not just texting and texting is not the problem. It is the person doing it and them not giving proper attention to what it at hand...
IMO of course...
gumby - 2-6-2010 at 12:09 PM
Sensors wouldn't work. Too many people ride public transportation and/or are passengers in cars that can text. You just need to rely on people using
a little common sense. We'll probably end up with a requirement for hands free devices for anyone operating a vehicle.
kdfwr907 - 2-6-2010 at 01:42 PM
If there really is a need to add another law to the books, what about.. driving while influenced...
Be it by phone, laptop, makeup, newspaper etc.. If you are influenced by something to the extent that it impairs your driving, here is your
ticket..
Then make it prepayable without court costs, just like the seatbelt ticket.. $25.00 ticket = $25.00 check to clerk
boater4life - 2-6-2010 at 02:20 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by kdfwr907
If there really is a need to add another law to the books, what about.. driving while influenced...
Be it by phone, laptop, makeup, newspaper etc.. If you are influenced by something to the extent that it impairs your driving, here is your
ticket..
Then make it prepayable without court costs, just like the seatbelt ticket.. $25.00 ticket = $25.00 check to clerk
That works for me.
bubbles - 2-6-2010 at 05:11 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by E_HILLMAN
And then what about someone abducted that needed to send a text while abducted? Or what if someone was riding in a car and wanted to send a text?
Just enforce the current laws. Its easy to spot those that are tuning their radio, or texting, or eating or whatever and are being a danger to
others. It s not just texting and texting is not the problem. It is the person doing it and them not giving proper attention to what it at hand...
IMO of course...
you said that very well E! my thoughts exactly!
daddeo - 2-7-2010 at 09:30 AM
In the case of emergencies, phone companies can allow calls or text msgs to home and 911, regardless of speed. At some point, the people who have
been injured by a texting driver will figure out to take legal action against the phone companies for knowingly sponsoring an unnecessary, dangerous
frill that they make a ton of money on. How long did it take for auto manufacturers to disable the ability to program a gps unit if the car is
moving?
Wireless phone companies make more money per bit of information transmitted for texting than any other service. Any wonder why they are slow to
correct the problem?
daddeo - 2-7-2010 at 09:39 AM
A few facts and comments on the phone company profits from texting.
Originally posted by daddeo
In the case of emergencies, phone companies can allow calls or text msgs to home and 911, regardless of speed. At some point, the people who have
been injured by a texting driver will figure out to take legal action against the phone companies for knowingly sponsoring an unnecessary, dangerous
frill that they make a ton of money on. How long did it take for auto manufacturers to disable the ability to program a gps unit if the car is
moving?
Wireless phone companies make more money per bit of information transmitted for texting than any other service. Any wonder why they are slow to
correct the problem?
THat would be like suing the maker of a car stereo for someone having a wreck while tuning it in... (and I had a freind wreck doing that)
Or suing the beer company for a drunk driver...
IMO...
Playin_Hooky_Boat - 2-7-2010 at 12:01 PM
Texting is stupid and a pox on humanity.
People text while they are at work, it is theft of time from their employer.
Students text all the time at school. When I was a kid, we where not allowed to pass notes in school. I'm tired of paying property taxes to give a
child an education who is texting several hundred times a day at school and not paying attention in class.
People text in cars and cross the line heading towards you. It is all to common to see distracted driving. It is putting everyone at risk.
Semi drivers are guilty of this too. I remember when truck driving was a profession where driving straight as an arrow was a trade mark of their
skill.
Law enforcement is guilty of this as well.
Cell phone companies have unleashed a direct threat to the community and need to discontinue the texting service.
Did I say texting was dumb?
Young people are lacking social phone skills while mindlessly pushing buttons.
If you think I am wrong, when was the last time you saw a young person leave a voice message?
Enforcement of this new proposed law? Simple, people ticketed can produce their phone records and show the activity at the time the citation was
issued.
In my world, the first ticket would be 100 dollars
second 200 bucks
third 400 bucks
forth 800 bucks
fifth 1600
denmarkshepherds - 2-7-2010 at 12:38 PM
One of our "cowboys" is a texting addict...I'd rather ride with a drunk driver.
hijack; When, not if, I smack that Powerball jackpot I'm gonna buy a Gilligans Island in the south Pacific where it never gets below 70 degrees.
Rules made as needed, but rule #1 (wrote in stone)...NO PHONES!
denmarkshepherds - 2-7-2010 at 12:42 PM
Question. Where we live/work/play rarely can you get a cell phone signal but you can place and receive text messages no problem. Why is this?
E_HILLMAN - 2-7-2010 at 02:14 PM
Data signals like pager signals can be pushed through using less bandwidth thus even a crappy signal will work. (this depends on how the carriers
deliver the data)
kdfwr911 - 2-7-2010 at 02:22 PM
I don't even understand the concept of texting. To me, it's far faster and easier to just dial the number and tell them what I need to say than to
peck it out on a phone pad. And the spelling associated with texting is another thing. Do they teach spelling in school anymore or just teach texting
lingo?
True story here, but I won't further identify the person. One of our officers did a boating accident report a year or so ago and submitted it to the
supervisor for review. In one of the information blocks on the form he had entered "IDK". Supervisor called him and asked what the IDK was and he
said "I don't know". Course we all got a big laugh out of it, but that's a good example of where the younger generations are heading with this
texting BS.
r u redy 4 it?
E_HILLMAN - 2-7-2010 at 02:38 PM
I'm sure people 50 years older than you didn't know why you called people on that dang contraption on the wall when you could walk up the road and
go see them... lol
squakmeister - 2-7-2010 at 02:49 PM
I keep telling my son:
That dang contraption on the wall only costs $35 per month and you can call anywhere in the world at anytime.
That dang contraption in you hand cost $135 per month and it won't:
- Well, I will leave the won't up to you
Now back to the subject of . . . . oh yea, something about driving a vehicle.
mcraftman - 2-7-2010 at 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by kdfwr911
I don't even understand the concept of texting. To me, it's far faster and easier to just dial the number and tell them what I need to say than to
peck it out on a phone pad.
And a whole lot cheaper too!
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