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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 07:03 PM
Learning By Observing Others


This was stolen from another thread but maybe if members posted each Monday acts of indescretion they witnessed the prior weekend, readers will read and take note.


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"...When you go through a no wake zone the size of the one @ Grider, there's no point in getting in a hurry."

I wished more people felt the same but…
Being on the south end of Grider, our moorage gets rocked by rollers from falls traffic all day long. I’d venture to say we have one of the roughest dock rides on the lake. It’s astonishing how many people attempt to traverse the idle zone at “full-plow”.

The Darwin Show…
While stuck at the dock all weekend, I was a spectator to numerous acts of boating brilliance. Besides the aforementioned wake rudeness, I witnessed at least a dozen instances of people pulling their kids on tubes through the falls traffic in the idle zone. I saw at least four rental houseboats with people dancing on the forward section of roofs (in front of the fly bridge, beyond the railing) while underway. I counted close to twenty people on the forward roof of one boat. Beside the obvious danger of someone slipping off the front, I’m sure those forward roofs weren’t designed for those types of loads. Then there were two exceptionally smart girls “playing Titanic” – one holding the other around the waist while she leaned out over the water yelling that stupid line from the movie.


You know Cranky, I think rudeness and unboatsmanlike conduct was excessive this year. I think the increase in activity accounted for some of it.

I stopped at State Dock on Sunday to get some fuel and water. I thought the idle zone violations were bad a Conley. They don't even compare to the area between State and Jamestown. I witnessed several "fast idle" races to see who could get to the docks first. Several houseboats runing full bore, ski boats thinking that wakeboarding speed is slowing down. While at the gas docks, a rather large houseboat was slowly making it's way to the gas dock. Three different boats sped up to make their way into the dock ahead of him.. finally the dockhands had to start turning the smaller boats away so the houseboat could dock. Last but not least, on my way out I was idleing past the end of the rental piers and a State boat came flying past from behind me, cut across my bow then slammed in reverse to avoid broadsiding Crownliner who was leaving the slips beside me. I hit reverse to avoid broadsiding the houseboat. To top it all off, I looked down and was sitting in a black pond of sludge that was large enough to completely engulf my 34 footer and leave a black ring around my hull. I guess I got my bottom paint touched up for free...

After returning to Conley, I sat amused with binoculars, watching the rookies.... Let's see, overloaded pontoon rentals, kids sitting with their legs dangling off the front of the bowriders, of course the usual plowers rocking everyone's world, waverunners thinking that if they run at half plane, they won't create any wake, and of course the cool daddy that thinks he should give the kids one last tube ride right up to the camper's dock. Oh yea, then there's the launch ramp comedy, let's not even start there....

Let's not forget the tie up the next day. Let's set the scene. I would estimate we had 12 to 15 boats on the hook. First this go fast comes in, oops, he's getting to close so he realizes he needs to shut down. We all know what a 40 foot fountain does when he coasts off plane about 100 feet from the beam of a raft up of cruisers. Needless to say, a little saulsa was spilled that day and a few ankles bruised trying to keep the fenders from popping like baloons. Then there was the Daddy or favorite uncle taking the kids for a tube ride, without an observer I might add, who thought it was cool to circle the kids around the tie up while they waved and smiled to the boaters and wondered why daddy wasn't getting the same wave back.:D:D

What is my point about this rambling? We all will see simillar not too brilliant acts throughout the rest of the summer. All we can do as this lake gets more traveled and congested is do our best to try to boat safe, keep our cool, and when possible without creating a confrontation, try to remind some of these novices the errors of their ways. Sometimes posts like these are read and people learn from them. Maybe the Dad or Uncle pulling those kids without an observer or taking them though the harbor will read this forum and will learn he was wrong. Maybe that Fountain driver will realize he had a moment of bad judgement and next time will approach a cove of boaters exercising a bit more courtesy. And finally, maybe that dock worker will realize that boating season is upon us and he can't buzz around a crowded harbor like he did during the off season.

Just letting off a little steam here.... Let's try to have a save boating season this summer....
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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 07:45 PM


Amen, Dan.

another act of ignorance I saw. This HUGE Viking plowing between conley and Camp Earl Wallace. He was leaving 6 foot rollers. I witnessed his lack of courtesy last year and was able to slow down in anticipation of the wake. I witnessed a small runabout with 2 young girls in the bow hit these rollers on full plane. they went air-born. How the girls stayed in the boat was amazing. The runabout boat driver either bruised his ribs or broke them when he landed on the windshield. His side was pure red in about 10 seconds. They declined any assistance claiming they were OK.

The Viking was towing two other boats behind it.

Why is this huge boat on the water???
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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 07:49 PM


Come on Guy's,

Was it really that bad this year? I have been bumed out about not being at the lake until reading this post.
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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 07:55 PM


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Amen, Dan.

another act of ignorance I saw. This HUGE Viking plowing between conley and Camp Earl Wallace. He was leaving 6 foot rollers. I witnessed his lack of courtesy last year and was able to slow down in anticipation of the wake. I witnessed a small runabout with 2 young girls in the bow hit these rollers on full plane. they went air-born. How the girls stayed in the boat was amazing. The runabout boat driver either bruised his ribs or broke them when he landed on the windshield. His side was pure red in about 10 seconds. They declined any assistance claiming they were OK.

The Viking was towing two other boats behind it.

Why is this huge boat on the water???



Real good question.

This topic was discussed last year. We had the same problem with a Bluewater out of LFM for several years, complained no one could or would do anything about it.

I would assume some on here would say it was error on the small boater's part but the fact is, it still was no match for that size boat, running at that speed.

I guess if one of the girl's had snapped their neck then maybe, just maybe someone would address this issue or at least address the way a boat that capabable of producing a wake that size should be required to run on this inland lake...:(:(
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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 07:58 PM


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Come on Guy's,

Was it really that bad this year? I have been bumed out about not being at the lake until reading this post.



Didn't say it was BAD. Just starting something that might be infomational and possibly a learning experience for some obviously novice boaters who didn't know any better...
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Real good question.

This topic was discussed last year. We had the same problem with a Bluewater out of LFM for several years, complained no one could or would do anything about it.


I've always wondered why somebody would put that sized ocean going yacht (70'Viking) on an inland lake in the first place. If you want space, a HB will give you more. I don't get it. :o:o:o




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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 09:43 PM


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Originally posted by NearlySatisfied
This was stolen from another thread but maybe if members posted each Monday acts of indescretion they witnessed the prior weekend, readers will read and take note.


Quote:
Originally posted by Cranky Coxswain
Quote:
Originally posted by riffraft
"...When you go through a no wake zone the size of the one @ Grider, there's no point in getting in a hurry."

I wished more people felt the same but…
Being on the south end of Grider, our moorage gets rocked by rollers from falls traffic all day long. I’d venture to say we have one of the roughest dock rides on the lake. It’s astonishing how many people attempt to traverse the idle zone at “full-plow”.

The Darwin Show…
While stuck at the dock all weekend, I was a spectator to numerous acts of boating brilliance. Besides the aforementioned wake rudeness, I witnessed at least a dozen instances of people pulling their kids on tubes through the falls traffic in the idle zone. I saw at least four rental houseboats with people dancing on the forward section of roofs (in front of the fly bridge, beyond the railing) while underway. I counted close to twenty people on the forward roof of one boat. Beside the obvious danger of someone slipping off the front, I’m sure those forward roofs weren’t designed for those types of loads. Then there were two exceptionally smart girls “playing Titanic” – one holding the other around the waist while she leaned out over the water yelling that stupid line from the movie.


You know Cranky, I think rudeness and unboatsmanlike conduct was excessive this year. I think the increase in activity accounted for some of it.

I stopped at State Dock on Sunday to get some fuel and water. I thought the idle zone violations were bad a Conley. They don't even compare to the area between State and Jamestown. I witnessed several "fast idle" races to see who could get to the docks first. Several houseboats runing full bore, ski boats thinking that wakeboarding speed is slowing down. While at the gas docks, a rather large houseboat was slowly making it's way to the gas dock. Three different boats sped up to make their way into the dock ahead of him.. finally the dockhands had to start turning the smaller boats away so the houseboat could dock. Last but not least, on my way out I was idleing past the end of the rental piers and a State boat came flying past from behind me, cut across my bow then slammed in reverse to avoid broadsiding Crownliner who was leaving the slips beside me. I hit reverse to avoid broadsiding the houseboat. To top it all off, I looked down and was sitting in a black pond of sludge that was large enough to completely engulf my 34 footer and leave a black ring around my hull. I guess I got my bottom paint touched up for free...

After returning to Conley, I sat amused with binoculars, watching the rookies.... Let's see, overloaded pontoon rentals, kids sitting with their legs dangling off the front of the bowriders, of course the usual plowers rocking everyone's world, waverunners thinking that if they run at half plane, they won't create any wake, and of course the cool daddy that thinks he should give the kids one last tube ride right up to the camper's dock. Oh yea, then there's the launch ramp comedy, let's not even start there....

Let's not forget the tie up the next day. Let's set the scene. I would estimate we had 12 to 15 boats on the hook. First this go fast comes in, oops, he's getting to close so he realizes he needs to shut down. We all know what a 40 foot fountain does when he coasts off plane about 100 feet from the beam of a raft up of cruisers. Needless to say, a little saulsa was spilled that day and a few ankles bruised trying to keep the fenders from popping like baloons. Then there was the Daddy or favorite uncle taking the kids for a tube ride, without an observer I might add, who thought it was cool to circle the kids around the tie up while they waved and smiled to the boaters and wondered why daddy wasn't getting the same wave back.:D:D

What is my point about this rambling? We all will see simillar not too brilliant acts throughout the rest of the summer. All we can do as this lake gets more traveled and congested is do our best to try to boat safe, keep our cool, and when possible without creating a confrontation, try to remind some of these novices the errors of their ways. Sometimes posts like these are read and people learn from them. Maybe the Dad or Uncle pulling those kids without an observer or taking them though the harbor will read this forum and will learn he was wrong. Maybe that Fountain driver will realize he had a moment of bad judgement and next time will approach a cove of boaters exercising a bit more courtesy. And finally, maybe that dock worker will realize that boating season is upon us and he can't buzz around a crowded harbor like he did during the off season.

Just letting off a little steam here.... Let's try to have a save boating season this summer....


Very well said :cool:

All I can add is that I would like to acknowledge the thoughtfulness of the house boaters who were tied up behind Submarine island all weekend and showed their class by dumping their holding tanks as they left this prime tie up spot Monday afternoon.
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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 10:18 PM


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Amen, Dan.

another act of ignorance I saw. This HUGE Viking plowing between conley and Camp Earl Wallace. He was leaving 6 foot rollers. I witnessed his lack of courtesy last year and was able to slow down in anticipation of the wake. I witnessed a small runabout with 2 young girls in the bow hit these rollers on full plane. they went air-born. How the girls stayed in the boat was amazing. The runabout boat driver either bruised his ribs or broke them when he landed on the windshield. His side was pure red in about 10 seconds. They declined any assistance claiming they were OK.

The Viking was towing two other boats behind it.

Why is this huge boat on the water???


I've always wondered why somebody would put that sized ocean going yacht (70'Viking) on an inland lake in the first place. If you want space, a HB will give you more. I don't get it. :o:o:o


The fact that someone is operating a 70 foot Viking on LC isn't just cause to be thrown off the lake; but the fact that he doesn't seem to know or care that he is putting out a huge wake that is hurting other people and causing damage to their property might well be.

This isn't the first time that I have heard about this large boat operating in a manor that is dangerous to others. It is a well know boating fact that a captain is responsible for any damage that his wake creates. He should know this and abide by it.

Maybe someone should a thread on this boat so his inconsiderate actions can be documented and shared by the community for all to see. Perhaps he will become aware of that thread and the harm he is doing others and will make adjustments to put out less wake.
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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 11:09 PM


Probably not, he did not seem like the friendliest of people in person.

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Summer is coming and we are already in a hurry. I have to tell you, it isn't about being right or wrong it is about being safe. I think everyone should show a little patience this summer and everyone will benifit. I have boated for more than 40 years and I would like to share my experiance this weekend. I pulled on the ramp at Conley that was very crowded with cars. No one was at the launch area and as I made my turn another car with a boat attached came up the side road. This person could not make the turn until I moved so I decided to back on down the ramp. I know I should have had my tarp off but I was just trying to get out of someone's way as an act of courtesty. I no more got out of my car, unsnapped the tarp as I walked back, someone else unsnaped the other side, got on the back of my boat(mind you this is all done in less than 60 to 90 seconds) to get ready to go. A guy comes down on one side of me inches away from my boat. I said something to the fact that he was very close and he proceeded to tell me that I should have been ready to launch and his boat was broken down. On the other side comes another boat full giving me a hard time. Now I have launched boats for a long time and I have never been so rudely treated. Of course this gets my friend, the driver, a little hyped up and in their hast to get out of the way backs down a little quick. I have to tell her to slow down. I felt like such an idiot but jeese these people were in such a hurry that another minuet or two was going to kill them. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that some of the stupid things you see are caused by people being in a rush and others trying to get out of the way. Slow down and enjoy the summer, I'm going to.
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[*] posted on 5-31-2006 at 11:52 PM


Great advice, eveybody is here to relax!
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[*] posted on 6-1-2006 at 05:25 AM


Speaking of that Viking....

I believe it was last year, 5th of July we were right outside the mouth of the falls on the left tied up with Money (?) and that Viking came all the way in between all the boats then started backing up. A couple of the boats had to hurry and untie and get out of it's way or it would have ran over them. They were yelling at him and he just didn't seem to care.

Now why in the world would you take a boat that size into a crowd of boats like that? Everyone knows how crowded it is in that area.




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[*] posted on 6-1-2006 at 07:33 AM


Mr. Talbott, the funeral director in Albany, better make sure his coroner hat still fits. It sounds like he potentially will be wearing it a lot this year in the area south of Grider to the falls. My local friends can't understand why I would rather stay home during some of the most beautiful weekends. Thanks to the people described above, who act like they are at a go-kart rental track, I'll limit my activity to the weekdays when most of them are busy earning their home equity loan payment money, the proceeds of which they used to buy more boat than they know what to do with and thus proved they have more money than sense. Short of getting hurt myself on the water I would hate to witness anyone being on the wrong end of someone else's stupidity.
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[*] posted on 6-1-2006 at 07:52 AM


And speaking of Viking cruisers and how big a moron this guy is. Talk to the group at Cumberland Point. CoyneOperated and myself came in at the same time after the raft up and low and behold the dock(which is only a year old I might add) was broken totally loose from the walkway(which is half way under water). Upon inquiring about it they said a huge dark colored cruiser came plowing around there and destroyed the place all this while someone was trying to load a boat.

Now I didn't see it(but don't doubt who it was) but I have been there when the dam thing nearly destroyed everything last year and I think it is high time that the KDFWR pay this moron a visit. Talk about a safety issue this has to be in the top 5 of needing to be corrected before someone gets killed.




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And don't misinterpet that. He has every right to be there like everyone else but should be fully aware AND RESPONSIBLE for what he has done, what he is doing, and what he WILL do and slow his dumb a$$ down. Cause I promise you the first time I get caught in the middle of it there won't be no hand gestures there will be a boarding involved. ;););)



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[*] posted on 6-1-2006 at 09:18 AM


The Viking was docked in the covered houseboat slips at LFM last year.
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Mr. Talbott, the funeral director in Albany, better make sure his coroner hat still fits. It sounds like he potentially will be wearing it a lot this year in the area south of Grider to the falls. My local friends can't understand why I would rather stay home during some of the most beautiful weekends. Thanks to the people described above, who act like they are at a go-kart rental track, I'll limit my activity to the weekdays when most of them are busy earning their home equity loan payment money, the proceeds of which they used to buy more boat than they know what to do with and thus proved they have more money than sense. Short of getting hurt
myself on the water I would hate to witness anyone being on the wrong end of someone else's stupidity.



My sentiments exactly. I gave up on going on busy holiday weekends a long time ago. And to avoid other situations like mentioned by Bailey. when we do go we go before Friday, get there later and leave late on Sunday, or even Monday if were down a longer period. We have the flexibility to do that some don't, but it avoids the conjestion at the ramp and parking issues. And we're one less boat at the ramp at the busy times.
I've seen my share of short tempers at the ramp and have had my fuse lit a few times myself over the years and I chose to avoid it as much as possible.
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And don't misinterpet that. He has every right to be there like everyone else but should be fully aware AND RESPONSIBLE for what he has done, what he is doing, and what he WILL do and slow his dumb a$$ down...................;);)




That's true, but just where is he supposed to run on the lake to NOT AVOID a situation? LC is a big lake, but not exactly extremely wide. So where do the big rollers have room to disipate? Maybe some places on the main lake, but not the creeks and certainly not in the bigger coves. So, wherever he goes he's going to be knocking somebody around.
It's ludicrous to try and limit size and hp on a lake like LC, but where does logic kick in? That thing is built for the ocean or great lakes and that's where it belongs. I don't know what it drafts, but it's obviously enough to throw some serious wake. As I mentioned earlier, if it's space your after, a HB give you that and you avoid all the other issues, so I don't get it, other than he can so he does.
LC is dominated by smaller boats and it doens't take a whole lot to get thrown around. We had a similar experience several years ago when a big cruiser came thru Clifty Creek where we, and several boats were anchored, fairly fast, but not on plane and his roller hit us. Grabbing the windshield for support I fell against the corner of the windhield, breaking the glass and the support arm. In the process, I cracked two ribs, ruining not just that weekend, but several others that followed. In the commotion, we never got his numbers, but that won't happen next time.
Now, this was a case where he should have used some common sense and he was in the wrong, but it sure goes to show what can happen - and the bigger the boat, the bigger the potential. And it doesn't matter where you are on the lake, you are responsible for your wake........




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Amen, Dan.

another act of ignorance I saw. This HUGE Viking plowing between conley and Camp Earl Wallace. He was leaving 6 foot rollers. I witnessed his lack of courtesy last year and was able to slow down in anticipation of the wake. I witnessed a small runabout with 2 young girls in the bow hit these rollers on full plane. they went air-born. How the girls stayed in the boat was amazing. The runabout boat driver either bruised his ribs or broke them when he landed on the windshield. His side was pure red in about 10 seconds. They declined any assistance claiming they were OK.

The Viking was towing two other boats behind it.

Why is this huge boat on the water???


This monster should be banned from the lake it's too dam big for an inland lake and needs to go before someone is seriously injured or killed. I love lake Cumberland as much or more than anybody on this forum, but I absolutely HATE THE LAKE on a holiday weekend. It brings out every moron known to man and the stupidity runs abound. Wa:(ter patrol needs to quit worrying so much about people tied or rafted up having a good time and start running these stupid freaking morons that don't know how to operate a boat to the nearest county jail. Sorry I'm done now.:(
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[*] posted on 6-1-2006 at 12:15 PM


We saw plenty of inappropiate behaviour last weekend. We spent Friday night in White Oak (what a beautiful evening and night on the lake!!). About an hour before dark, 2 boats came in together, shouted obscenities at each other for 10 minutes, then left. Our 8 & 10 year old daughters did not need to hear this so we just turned on the radio so we could not make out what they were saying. I know, they have a right to do that but it is rude to say the least.

We spent Sunday and Monday behind the No Ski buoys by Pulaski County Park in Fishing Creek. I must have counted 10 boats pulling tubes or skiers in that area - a No Ski area. I really felt bad for those trying to load/unload boats at Pulaski County Park and the Fishing Creek ramp. The WP did a great job of monitoring this both days but just as soon as he would leave, the tubes would come out.

I saw a number of boats cruising through LFM well above no wake speed.

The worst case was where we were traveling at displacement speed to avoid hitting any debris and a bass boat came up behind us traveling at 35+- MPH and turned at the last minute, no more than 15 feet from my transom.

We had a great weekend and are very, very thankful for the water partol officers. They have a tough job but do it very well. My uncle was a water patrol officer for 20 years and I have a sense of what they deal with.

Happy and safe boating....
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The worst I saw this past holiday weekend was the "forest" as for people other than the Bajas going through the forest at what appeared to be about 65 or 70 (only endangering themselves since they were indeed staying wide and clear of other boats) I did not see really anything bad out of anyone this time so i must have been lucky. Now I did see a guy at Conley that backed down the ramp not ready but I am pretty sure it was not Bailey since this guy and his wife took every bit of 10 minutes to launch or more. In the time it took me to wait in line, (several other boats launched) and then get turned to back down, park the truck and meet up with the wife at the dock he was still launching. Now that is getting a little too stoooooooooooooouuuuuuuuupid. :D But I did not yell, scream or even mumble under my breath. Conley is a wide ramp and he was off to the side so the heck with it.


Ramp etiquette is something EVERYBODY should understand and practice, but it hasn't happened in my 25+yrs of being on the lake.
Pretty simple in my book. Go in and come out prepared and don't waste a lot of time going about your business. Granted, novices may take more time even if prepared, but it doesn't take long to get in the swing of things. You can't avoid the sitituations where someone has a non-running boat to load or some other problem, but for the most part everybody should do their part to keep things moving. If you see someone having trouble, or by themselves, offer help to get them going. But, don't come unprepared for the task at hand and don't pull down and park at the ramp and leavew your boat/trailer there while you take off to the marina office to do whatever. Otherwise, especially on hot busy days, tempers will flare and as they say $h*t happens. More than once I've seen things go beyond just words and turn into an ugly situation.




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[*] posted on 6-2-2006 at 05:43 PM


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Nearly I am a novice but when I don't know I err on the side of caution. However I have had most of my "moments: with what have to be "seasoned" lakers that my think they own the thing.

The year before last it was the houseboat that did not like us on the other side of the HUGE island we are hooked to so they drew up their lines and come around to the side we were on and pulled within 8' of my lil boat and 10' of the swimmers I had in front of it...

I know there are guys like you that watch out for everyone but please don't always assume it is the novice. :-p ;)


Well said,

I never assume it is intirely the NOVICE boater. Some SEASONED boaters just don't give a Da## and are there for "themselves". In fact some Novice boaters who seem to exhibit a little sence tend to be more cautious.
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[*] posted on 6-2-2006 at 06:03 PM


Ramp Courtresy,

All ramps have PREP areas, and that's what they are for.

It is extremely rude and inconsiderate of the individual who pulls to the ramp, then desides to check the batteries, check the drain plug, pull his cover off, load the coolers and water toys. and on and on and on. Or, after boating, pull half way up the ramp, then begin everything again in reverse.

I am in no way perfect but my Wife and I had launching and loading down to less than two minutes. She could back a rigg as well as anyone and I think that was the key. Most people are intimidated with backing a trailor but I think anyone can learn with a little practice. We even had hand held radios and when loading, she called me when she was next in line, THEN and only then did I approach the ramp. By the time the trailor was in the water, I was ready to pull on.

You get the boat ready to launch BEFORE approaching the ramp, teach your partner to either back the trailor or drive the boat and how to hook and unhook the winch strap and chain. A good winch strap will hold the boat in place while proceeding to the prep area to tie the rest of the boat down.

You will not only set an example but others may take note and do the same..

Just my 2cents...
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And don't misinterpet that. He has every right to be there like everyone else but should be fully aware AND RESPONSIBLE for what he has done, what he is doing, and what he WILL do and slow his dumb a$$ down. Cause I promise you the first time I get caught in the middle of it there won't be no hand gestures there will be a boarding involved. ;););)



Agreed Rod,

I for one would give my left arm for a boat like that, who wouldn't but if I could afford one like that, it wouldn't be on Lake Cumberland...

It seems like a lot of boaters already have had instances with this boat and it's only the second year he's been on the lake. If you may recall our post last year when he sent wakes high enough to break OVER the docks at Conley..

Maybe one of the Water Patrol Officials would have a suggestion of what could be done Legally to notify this individual of our concerns.
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[*] posted on 6-3-2006 at 05:28 PM


Nearly, I understand your comments but on a crowded Holiday there was no prep area left. By the way, I was putting in on Sunday after 2pm. I usally have my boat in long before Memorial Day because of the rude and inpatient folks you run into, but this year it didn't happen. By the way the boats that were giving me a hard time, had a boat full of people already in the baots and had traveled down from the homes around Conley. Last time I checked it is illegal to be in a towed item, and I don't think it is real safe going down the ramp like that, but that's me. So I don't think asking or taking a few minuets to load one person and unsnap a copit cover is inconviencing anyone to the degree that they had to come down on top of me and start giving me a hard time. Like I said in my first post, I was trying to get out of someones way at the top of the ramp. I'm not a novice and I don't like to take any longer than it is necessary. Folks just need to slow down and enjoy the season, an extra minuet or two is not going to make or break the season.
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