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[*] posted on 6-22-2012 at 09:18 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Iliketoski  
Not sure if related, but last weekend I saw the new WP Officer pull over a HB on its way out of the no wake zone (he was not creating a wake). He was on board for 15 min or more. Never did hear what it was about, maybe a documentation check.


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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 08:26 AM


so.....how many ppl went to jail? i heard there were lots! and you can ask anyone on the cruise, i drank water, and lots of it the majority of the day. i TRIED my hardest to have one whole drink with no such luck. may have had something to do with the night before. but i was in good shape for the after cruise to harmon! :D



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 08:51 AM


We got checked on the Ky. River yesterday............... no issues on our craft. ;)



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 10:30 AM


We did the poker run and after the lunch stop we took a break and swam for an hour and a half before going to Harmon to pick up our last card. When we finally got there the other participants said that water patrol really ruined what should have bee a great atmosphere after the run by swarming over the place and pulling over people who weren't doing a darn thing. I then "heard" on Sunday that the WP was parked outside of GH Saturday night and literally pulling over every other boat that came into the no wake zone. If they found any open containers they took people to Jail - not just bui's. No idea if that was true but if so it sure isnt going to do much for tourism on the lake.
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 11:16 AM


We were at Harmon Saturday from about 2-5. We saw 3-4 Patrol boats and saw them stop more people than we have in the past. We just anchored off to the side and were pretty quit, no problems.

I thought it was a little weird though, the former patrol officers used to waive at you and what not. I waived at all three different boats I saw and none waived back.

We followed the old rule - "If you are doing something to make us pay attention to you, we will, if not then we won't. I will assume that red cup in your hand has wonderfully refreshing cold iced tea on a hot summer's day."
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 11:22 AM


Sad to hear Marginmn and MPII. Glad you guys were all good though. :)



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 11:36 AM


i spoke with a gentleman that said he got checked going back into indian creek as well, they made him blow and he was right at .08, they just asked him where he was going and he told them his dock slip and that was the end of it.

Also glad i didn't go back to Harmon, love going but after mem day weekends happenings back there i could only guess this weekend would be even worse. I was only on the water bottle too.
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 12:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by HartAttack33  
i spoke with a gentleman that said he got checked going back into indian creek as well, they made him blow and he was right at .08, they just asked him where he was going and he told them his dock slip and that was the end of it.

Also glad i didn't go back to Harmon, love going but after mem day weekends happenings back there i could only guess this weekend would be even worse. I was only on the water bottle too.


What were the memorial day happenings? (I didn't get down there for MD).
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 12:16 PM


Remember this past weekend was a special operation of "operation dry water". I doubt this will be typical for a non holiday weekend.



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 01:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MPII  
Quote: Originally posted by HartAttack33  
i spoke with a gentleman that said he got checked going back into indian creek as well, they made him blow and he was right at .08, they just asked him where he was going and he told them his dock slip and that was the end of it.

Also glad i didn't go back to Harmon, love going but after mem day weekends happenings back there i could only guess this weekend would be even worse. I was only on the water bottle too.


What were the memorial day happenings? (I didn't get down there for MD).


While leaving Harmon on saturday of MD weekend, I've never seen so many people get stopped at random in such a short time frame.

But this past weekend, I did not see the issues at GH mentioned above. We pulled into the no wake zone right at dusk. We saw a couple of WP but no one pulled over. We left after a few hrs, again with no issue.




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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 02:14 PM


As Pac stated, Md weekend all sorts of people got stopped as they came in and at the exodus. We stayed off to the side of the mess, when 2 patols went by us to take a break in the shade neither one gave us the coutesy waive back. It also appeared that the folks being stopped didn't even look like they might be up to anything, saw a family of 5 in a small toon get checked as they putted through the area. Why not the 40fters with stereo's blasting louder then their engines??
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 05:07 PM


Beside going to jail till sober. What happens with a bui. Does it go against your drivers license? Whats the fine cost? Does everyone go to the pokey if you have an open container. Guess if your drunk or not on the lake your taking a chance of jail. Whats expected for the fourth?
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 06:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by purvisr1  
Beside going to jail till sober. What happens with a bui. Does it go against your drivers license? Whats the fine cost? Does everyone go to the pokey if you have an open container. Guess if your drunk or not on the lake your taking a chance of jail. Whats expected for the fourth?
A friend went to jail last year in State Dock no-wake zone for bui. 8 hrs in jail and fined did not have anything to do with license...ie you dont need a license to operate a boat.



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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 06:53 PM


i think boating law actually says it can go against your license, maybe it varies by case along with behavior and cooperation???
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 07:03 PM


http://www.boatingundertheinfluence.org/builawspenalties.htm...

according to this drivers license can be affected...
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 08:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by HartAttack33  
http://www.boatingundertheinfluence.org/builawspenalties.htm...

according to this drivers license can be affected...


Interesting.....

Says it varies from state to state. I too was under the assumption that your KY Drivers License wasn't affected by a BUI because like someone else mentioned, a license isn't required to operate watercraft in KY.
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 09:52 PM


BUI Law

http://162.114.4.13/KRS/235-00/240.PDF

Penalty

http://162.114.4.13/KRS/235-00/990.PDF


235.240 (2)
A person shall not operate any motorboat or vessel, or manipulate any water skis, surfboard, or similar device, while intoxicated or under the influence of any other substance which impairs one's driving ability.

235.990(2)
Any person who violates KRS 235.240 shall not be subject to the penalties of KRS Chapter 189A but shall be guilty of a separate offense and subject to a fine of two hundred dollars ($200) to two hundred fifty dollars ($250) for the first offense, a fine of three hundred fifty dollars ($350) to five hundred dollars ($500) for the second offense, and a fine of six hundred dollars ($600) to one thousand dollars ($1,000) or imprisonment in the county jail for not less than thirty (30) days, or both, for the third or subsequent offense. Refusal to submit to a breath alcohol analysis or similar test in violation of KRS 235.240(3) shall be deemed an offense.

235.990 (3)(b)
A person shall, in addition to the penalties of subsection (2) of this section, be required to take a safe-boating course offered by the department and to present the court a certificate documenting successful completion of the course. The person attending a class under this paragraph shall pay the department a fee of one hundred dollars ($100) for the costs of materials and instruction before receiving a certificate of completion.
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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 09:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MPII  
We were at Harmon Saturday from about 2-5. We saw 3-4 Patrol boats and saw them stop more people than we have in the past. We just anchored off to the side and were pretty quit, no problems.

I thought it was a little weird though, the former patrol officers used to waive at you and what not. I waived at all three different boats I saw and none waived back.

We followed the old rule - "If you are doing something to make us pay attention to you, we will, if not then we won't. I will assume that red cup in your hand has wonderfully refreshing cold iced tea on a hot summer's day."


At one point I counted 5. Just a bunch of quota filling officers trying to make names for themselves.




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[*] posted on 6-25-2012 at 10:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by RedneckYachtClub  
Quote: Originally posted by MPII  
We were at Harmon Saturday from about 2-5. We saw 3-4 Patrol boats and saw them stop more people than we have in the past. We just anchored off to the side and were pretty quit, no problems.

I thought it was a little weird though, the former patrol officers used to waive at you and what not. I waived at all three different boats I saw and none waived back.

We followed the old rule - "If you are doing something to make us pay attention to you, we will, if not then we won't. I will assume that red cup in your hand has wonderfully refreshing cold iced tea on a hot summer's day."


At one point I counted 5. Just a bunch of quota filling officers trying to make names for themselves.



Here's a novel idea: DON'T DRINK AND OPERATE A BOAT.

And you are wrong about quotas to fill. If people were not asses and acting like idiots, endangering themselves and others, there would be no issue. You think they want to babysit all of the party crowd?

You people have no clue how lucky you are there is no Coast Guard here and the Water Patrol is not under the command of the State Police. You would all be REALLY whining then.

Why anybody thinks they are above the law and can drink and drive is really ridiculous and they deserve all they get and probably more.




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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 01:18 AM


Quote: Originally posted by MarineAssist  
Quote: Originally posted by RedneckYachtClub  
Quote: Originally posted by MPII  
We were at Harmon Saturday from about 2-5. We saw 3-4 Patrol boats and saw them stop more people than we have in the past. We just anchored off to the side and were pretty quit, no problems.

I thought it was a little weird though, the former patrol officers used to waive at you and what not. I waived at all three different boats I saw and none waived back.

We followed the old rule - "If you are doing something to make us pay attention to you, we will, if not then we won't. I will assume that red cup in your hand has wonderfully refreshing cold iced tea on a hot summer's day."


At one point I counted 5. Just a bunch of quota filling officers trying to make names for themselves.



Here's a novel idea: DON'T DRINK AND OPERATE A BOAT.

And you are wrong about quotas to fill. If people were not asses and acting like idiots, endangering themselves and others, there would be no issue. You think they want to babysit all of the party crowd?

You people have no clue how lucky you are there is no Coast Guard here and the Water Patrol is not under the command of the State Police. You would all be REALLY whining then.

Why anybody thinks they are above the law and can drink and drive is really ridiculous and they deserve all they get and probably more.


I totally agree that if someone is boating while intoxicated they deserve to go to jail. But when we went into Harmon they were swarming over boats entering the no wake zone. I didn't have any issues as they were already engaged with other boats and nobody on our boat was drinking anyway because we were in the Poker run. Again, from what I heard, second hand, the water patrol was being pro-active in pulling people over at random- not waiting until someone drew attention to themselves like in the past. I hope it was just for this one weekend because if that is their new policy word travels fast and people can and will spend their money elsewhere.
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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 06:27 AM


The reason i ask this question is. This past weekend friends of mine were ancored off and drinking. It started to get dark and one of the lights would not come on. While attempting to repair the light WP circled the boat 3 times and stopped them. Owner was chaeged with bui and others were told to not move the boat for 2 hours allowing them to sober up. Funny part was the officer said it was dangerous to sit without the light but would not allow them to move to a safer area. Just interested in the drinking.
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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 06:55 AM


Quote: Originally posted by purvisr1  
The reason i ask this question is. This past weekend friends of mine were ancored off and drinking. It started to get dark and one of the lights would not come on. While attempting to repair the light WP circled the boat 3 times and stopped them. Owner was chaeged with bui and others were told to not move the boat for 2 hours allowing them to sober up. Funny part was the officer said it was dangerous to sit without the light but would not allow them to move to a safer area. Just interested in the drinking.
How can he be charged with BUI if he was anchored off?
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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 07:49 AM


Public Intoxication?
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[*] posted on 6-26-2012 at 08:18 AM


Agree with Marg, tourism dollars will go bye bye if that keeps up. But I really think it was just for the crack down weekend. I'm not going anywhere just yet.

And CB, he didn't say it was for PI. I'm assuming the whole boat could have gone for that since he told them to sit still for 2hrs.




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