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Aren't you guys glad I got this thread going again. 
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Barnhart, Indiana AD talked but couldn't reach a scheduling compromise
Lexington Herald Liberal
By Herald-Leader Staff Report Posted: 5:46pm on May 30, 2012; Modified: 6:50am on May 31, 2012
Kentucky's basketball scheduling impasse with Indiana resulted Wednesday in the schools' athletics directors publicly airing their differences and
their willingness to compromise.
But their exchange did not produce a resumption to the 43-year-old series that was discontinued earlier this month.
The Herald-Times of Bloomington, Ind., obtained through a public-records request a letter from Indiana Athletics Director Fred Glass to Kentucky AD
Mitch Barnhart that detailed a scheduling compromise recently offered by the Hoosiers.
In the letter from Glass to Barnhart, dated May 25, Glass said Indiana was willing to play Kentucky at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis in December
of 2012 and 2013 then move the series to Rupp Arena in 2014 and Indiana's Assembly Hall in 2015.
Glass's thinking, according to the letter, was that this proposal would meet with Kentucky Coach John Calipari's interest in playing the Hoosiers at
neutral sites, even though it still contained the campus-sites component Calipari did not want.
"We wouldn't get everything we wanted," Glass said in a telephone conversation later Wednesday. "We wanted home-and-home. We thought, 'Jeez, if they
get three/fourths of a loaf, would that be enough?' "
It wasn't.
Kentucky's response was an unwillingness to compromise from what Glass termed in his letter a "take it or leave it demand" for neutral sites. Nor
would UK agree to a contract of longer than two years.
Hours after the Herald-Times released Glass's letter, Barnhart issued a statement explaining that Kentucky was open to playing Indiana at Lucas Oil
Stadium the next two seasons, then resuming talks after that about a future home-and-home series.
"We currently do not have any agreements with more than two years remaining and would like to maintain the current flexibility of our future
scheduling," Barnhart's statement said. "If we entered into a four-year deal with Indiana, including the last two years at campus sites, not only
would that alter our flexibility, but it would also mean that we would have to end our home-and-home series with Louisville in order to keep our
non-conference road schedule balanced. We are not interested in doing that."
Barnhart also said scheduling moves Kentucky has made since Indiana's initial announcement that the series would need to be discontinued have reduced
UK's flexibility. On May 3, UK announced that Indiana had decided to end the series with Kentucky. By the time Glass called a week later to offer what
IU saw as a four-year compromise deal, UK had already added a two-game series with Baylor, which will include a doubleheader in Cowboys Stadium
involving the schools' women's teams, and had renewed its series with North Carolina beginning in 2013-14.
Barnhart's statement suggested that a game with Indiana could not be fit into UK's schedule.
As part of its compromise, Indiana offered to pay half the $100,000 buyout UK would incur should it drop Samford or Portland to make room for the
Hoosiers.
Initially, Glass held hope that Kentucky might accept the four-year deal, with the final two games being played in Lexington and then Bloomington.
"Mitch was very open and accommodating ... ," the IU AD said. "He reflected a real willingness to look at it. I was encouraged."
Although Indiana sees home-and-home as a way to maintain a "collegiate experience," Glass said he would not fault Kentucky's insistence on neutral
sites only.
"I don't begrudge Kentucky to pursue a non-traditional schedule," he said. "... They can and should schedule as they see fit."
In his statement, Barnhart did not rule out the teams finding a way to continue the rivalry.
"We have held the last two games on our current schedule while continuing discussions with Indiana about playing this fall," his statement said.
"December 15 and 22 are still options for the upcoming season and Lucas Oil Stadium is available for both dates. In the best interest of our fans, I
would hope we can come to a conclusion to continue this storied series this December."
But Glass termed a home-and-home component to any continuation of the series as "bottom-line" for Indiana. Meanwhile, UK insists on neutral sites only
and a deal no longer than two years.
"Now it looks like we're really moving on," the IU AD said. "I think what we proposed was awfully reasonable. I'm not sure where we go from here. I'm
not sure how we bridge that divide."
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2012/05/30/2206257/report-indiana-sa...
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"Barnhart issued a statement explaining that Kentucky was open to playing Indiana at Lucas Oil Stadium the next two seasons."
So UK offers to play in Indiana both of the next two years but UK is being unreasonable?
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Question. Why was the Freedom Hall deal squashed in the first place? If they would have used a nuetral court(not a uk floor), and split the tickets
50/50, that seemed like the best thing all around both both. Or, why not do like uk/UofL series and alternate home floors. I guess that would be too
simple. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by pac22
Question. Why was the Freedom Hall deal squashed in the first place? If they would have used a nuetral court(not a uk floor), and split the tickets
50/50, that seemed like the best thing all around both both. Or, why not do like uk/UofL series and alternate home floors. I guess that would be too
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Coach Cal wants to give his team experience in the the big dome settings. That's where final fours are played and UK plans on playing in final fours.
Really easy to grasp that.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pop-O_826
| Quote: | Originally posted by pac22
Question. Why was the Freedom Hall deal squashed in the first place? If they would have used a nuetral court(not a uk floor), and split the tickets
50/50, that seemed like the best thing all around both both. Or, why not do like uk/UofL series and alternate home floors. I guess that would be too
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Coach Cal wants to give his team experience in the the big dome settings. That's where final fours are played and UK plans on playing in final fours.
Really easy to grasp that. |
Must be a bunch of big domes in Fantasy Land. Let's see how many times he can pull that off with one and done's.
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Guuuuuuffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta clean this coffee off the screen.
If you tell the truth, you don\'t have to remember anything.
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I'll agree with the Pacman on this one. Without a Terrence Jones, a Doron Lamb, and guys like forth year senior Darius Miller to guide the young
studs,it will be very very difficult to win it with 18 and 19 year olds. That being said, Cal is putting a recruiting bonanza for next year that
will be his record sixth straight NCAA best recruiting year. Until the NBA Players Union approves something other than what we have now, I guess we
are stuck with this crappy one and done stuff.............Southforkwally
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Must not be much to compete with if the retro retread red chickens are ranked in the top 5.
I thought one and done worked really GREAT 8 last season. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by southforkwally
Let me add my two cents. The main reason the series has been cancelled is the result of the unbelievable behavior by "Bobby's Brats." Yes the fan
vulgarities and rabid abuse of Kentucky's players and fans was the worst in America this past season. I was not at the game but from film and folks
I've talked to all agreed that this was the absolute worst in sportsmanship shown by any team all year no contest. Bobby Knight is no doubt
responsible for inciting most of this type of behavior against Calipari and the Cats.
So there you have the inside scoop on not the only reason but the main reason for the cancellation of the series. Have a nice
day..............Southforkwally |
Wally, I usually agree with your posts, but this makes absolutely no sense. Based on your theory, (by the way, Bobby hasn't been around in 12 years)
UK shouldn't play in Semi-Final or Finals game cause that leads to burning of couches, cars and shootings in the streets of Lexington. And IU has
crazy fans? Fact is IU AD offered a compromise to UK's AD, play next two years in Lucas, then the next year at UK then next year at IU. UK politely
declined. Makes no sense to me why UK would decline. UK gets what they want and IU gets what they want.
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This typical WILDCAT fan certainly doesn't expect to win it all next year. 5 starters and the 6th man to replace, probably won't even make the final
four. That said there should be a good possibility that some of this years class might return. Add the great recruiters touch for several years in
the future ?????????????????????
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Hello Fun4all. Bobby Knight hates Kentucky with a passion and in his latest foolishness accused Kentucky's players of not going to class in the second
semester after basketball season was over. He was forced to apologize after he was informed that not only had the players been going to class but
doing well. Add to the fact that Knight doesn't do any games at Rupp. His bully tactics "overflow" to Indiana fans to this day and like I said,the
atmosphere Bloomington was the worst in the good ol USA this past year.......Comparing a bunch of kids celebrating a NCAA championship by burning cars
to vulgar and malicious and at times threatening behavior of the Indiana crowd is bogus also. Bottom line, fans will have to lose the Bobby Knight
Bully attitudes and one day the Cats might ride back into town..........................Southforkwally
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja25-PJ
Aren't you guys glad I got this thread going again. |
I guess. The only thing that would have been better is, if one cardinal fan, that we all know on here, would have posted something intelligent.
| Quote: | Originally posted by southforkwally
Hello Fun4all. Bobby Knight hates Kentucky with a passion and in his latest foolishness accused Kentucky's players of not going to class in the second
semester after basketball season was over. He was forced to apologize after he was informed that not only had the players been going to class but
doing well. Add to the fact that Knight doesn't do any games at Rupp. His bully tactics "overflow" to Indiana fans to this day and like I said,the
atmosphere Bloomington was the worst in the good ol USA this past year.......Comparing a bunch of kids celebrating a NCAA championship by burning cars
to vulgar and malicious and at times threatening behavior of the Indiana crowd is bogus also. Bottom line, fans will have to lose the Bobby Knight
Bully attitudes and one day the Cats might ride back into town..........................Southforkwally |
Now THIS is intelligence.
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