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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 05:42 PM


Towing does not bother me, I trailer a 35' trailer pretty often with MUCH more weight in it than a 28' boat and trailer. Diesel costs are about the same towing that setup as trailering the lighter weight cuddy cabin I have.
However with the wider beam boats especially I would definitely consider storage options around one of the less steep ramps. If course I don't get down to the lake every weekend thus a slip just does not make much sense to me at this stage of my life.

Point taken on the salt water boats, I have not really been able to get a full answer on that with any back ground. The only ones I was considering had low hours.

Does Cincy have Volvo shops? It is not a bad drive for me...

How does one tell a Vacu flush head just looking in a picture of a boat?


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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 05:43 PM


...another thing. the more and more I have thought about it I have really been leaning more towards the 9-9.5 beam boats. Most seem to think I can get away with towing them and in the pictures they SURE look a LOT more roomy in the cabin.



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Don't buy a saltwater boat period!!! IMO


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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 05:52 PM


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Hmmm, why so cheap and wonder what happened to the engine at 100 hours?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite...

Prolly didn't get winterized in time. (like my son's boat)

Oops, just saw the next post. I'd sure check this one out 'E'. That is one heck of a price with all those options. (jist sayin)


I just noticed this has a Volvo... My mechanic friends tell me this is not a good Volvo area. Parts are twice as much and most of the mechanics around our area are MerCruiser friendly. Based on these conversations, I would discourage Volvo powertrains.


On the other hand. I found my Volvo Pentas easy to work on for regular maintenance. But in 7 yrs and 350 hrs I owned it, I never had to have anything major done. Yes it is hard to find people to work on it, but they are more reliable than Merc's, IMO




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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 05:53 PM


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...another thing. the more and more I have thought about it I have really been leaning more towards the 9-9.5 beam boats. Most seem to think I can get away with towing them and in the pictures they SURE look a LOT more roomy in the cabin.


Y not get a pontoon if you want such a wide beam?

I like the idea of a big cruiser on the lake but what I don't like is the constant rocking of boats with hulls or the claustrophobic feeling of being inside one. Toons rock a heck of allot less, are above the waterline and less claustrophobic feeling.

Secondly, I can speak for older Volvo systems in that they are built like tanks. But be ready to spend if you have to do maintenance on them and you can't do it yourself.

I agree with the salt water trashers 100 percent. Having grown up on the Chesapeake, I'm pretty schooled on the harsh environment. Unless you've been around it and know what areas to look at, good advice is to steer clear...

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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 05:58 PM


I know towing doesn't bother you. In fact, I strangely look at it as part of the fun. What I think you'll find is the stress will be greater towing something that wide and wondering if some over zealous Trooper will find the need to pull you over. Another is the launching, loading, and just plain handling a larger boat after a long day on the water. Looking in the mirrors to see if your trailer wheels are still turning or if you just wiped out some one's mailbox, you get my drift... I think others will chime in here about there's just something said about just driving down in any vehicle (or bike) you choose and stepping onto an awaiting boat sitting in a berth already prepped and ready to go. Late at night, all you have to do is carry a few provisions, pull back the cover, and lay yourself down to sleep. You might find some of the slip rental may outweigh the cost of fuel, wear and tear of your rig, or just plain additional maintenance.
Like I said, I give it maybe a season and you'll be calling old Fred or Charlie and seeing what they have available for you. ;);)
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I know towing doesn't bother you. In fact, I strangely look at it as part of the fun. What I think you'll find is the stress will be greater towing something that wide and wondering if some over zealous Trooper will find the need to pull you over. Another is the launching, loading, and just plain handling a larger boat after a long day on the water. Looking in the mirrors to see if your trailer wheels are still turning or if you just wiped out some one's mailbox, you get my drift... I think others will chime in here about there's just something said about just driving down in any vehicle (or bike) you choose and stepping onto an awaiting boat sitting in a berth already prepped and ready to go. Late at night, all you have to do is carry a few provisions, pull back the cover, and lay yourself down to sleep. You might find some of the slip rental may outweigh the cost of fuel, wear and tear of your rig, or just plain additional maintenance.
Like I said, I give it maybe a season and you'll be calling old Fred or Charlie and seeing what they have available for you. ;);)


Sounds like your describing the Buckeye Navy...




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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 06:03 PM


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...another thing. the more and more I have thought about it I have really been leaning more towards the 9-9.5 beam boats. Most seem to think I can get away with towing them and in the pictures they SURE look a LOT more roomy in the cabin.


Yes, Beam is very advantageous when down in the cabin. Especially the mid cabin. BTW, actually most Cruiser Cabins are Mid Cabins, we just commonly refer to the Cruisers as AFT cabins.

Remember, you will be legally over the limit if a LE Officer decides to enforce the law. If most people are getting away with it, the law of averages may begin to apply my friend. :D
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I know towing doesn't bother you. In fact, I strangely look at it as part of the fun. What I think you'll find is the stress will be greater towing something that wide and wondering if some over zealous Trooper will find the need to pull you over. Another is the launching, loading, and just plain handling a larger boat after a long day on the water. Looking in the mirrors to see if your trailer wheels are still turning or if you just wiped out some one's mailbox, you get my drift... I think others will chime in here about there's just something said about just driving down in any vehicle (or bike) you choose and stepping onto an awaiting boat sitting in a berth already prepped and ready to go. Late at night, all you have to do is carry a few provisions, pull back the cover, and lay yourself down to sleep. You might find some of the slip rental may outweigh the cost of fuel, wear and tear of your rig, or just plain additional maintenance.
Like I said, I give it maybe a season and you'll be calling old Fred or Charlie and seeing what they have available for you. ;);)


Sounds like your describing the Buckeye Navy...


:D:D I still live in KY, it's just that it's only 10 blocks from Ahia so I guess you might say I could classify close to that group. The only problem when you live in NKY is that the Ahia people don't accept you and neither will the KY people. Kinda like a Neutral Zone if you know what I mean. :D (Hum-mm..."spell check" doesn't recognize "Ahia"...what's up with that?) :D
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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 07:57 PM


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Y not get a pontoon if you want such a wide beam?



I am just not a pontoon type person. I like the cabin layout of a cruiser and they are generally more mobile than most "cabin" style pontoons. I have a feeling in the right cruiser I am going to have a much more stable ride on choppy water or a pop up storm.




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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 08:13 PM


In the right cruiser you are the chop. lol I used to cuss them all the time in my runabout but you know what they say "if ya can't beat em join em".



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[*] posted on 4-25-2012 at 09:11 PM


E,
This thread is picking up some serious steam and may battle the length of the Beached Houseboat Thread. :P:P




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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 12:13 PM


LOL, that is fine with me. I get something out of it since someone out there might know of a perfect boat for me I have not seen plus i get all kinds of knowledge from other boaters like Nearly etc.

And the whole group gets to laugh at the boats I am looking at :P Uh I mean the whole group gets to benefit from the discussion and shared knowledge. :D:cool:




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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 12:28 PM


AND we ALL get to share in the "maiden voyage-raft up- tieup-breakin" party that E will be hosting sometime this summer. Probably around Shinbone.

Not been a good family raft up in a long time. This is a golden opportunity. :cool:

Details are sketchy at this point. :P




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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 12:51 PM


Not to beat a dead horse.....The boat doesn't have to be "on salt water" to suffer the effects of salt water. My family lives on NC coast...and just the salty air corrodes lots of things...especially electrical connections. A five year old salt water boat is like a 10 year old lake boat maybe even worse. (IMO).

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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 01:04 PM


Best Wishes on your new boat search. That is half the fun.



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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 01:25 PM


LOL, All drinks and food items will be consumed on PAC and JabezBoy's boats. :P



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Best Wishes on your new boat search. That is half the fun.


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Not to beat a dead horse.....The boat doesn't have to be "on salt water" to suffer the effects of salt water. My family lives on NC coast...and just the salty air corrodes lots of things...especially electrical connections. A five year old salt water boat is like a 10 year old lake boat maybe even worse. (IMO).



that is pretty much what Marine Assist was telling me as well. He said it is the environment itself.




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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 01:36 PM


...still waiting on someone to send me a link to a boat that I will look at and just pull the trigger on:
25k range
2000 or newer
26-29' Cruiser with Trailer
Leaning towards 9' -9.5' beams but anything over 8.5 would be considered.
Want to be around that 200 hour mark - would go higher on a bigger block.




I have found some but believe it or not some if these people are hard to get a response from...

ps, I still love the windows on the Bayliner 2655 and some of the Chaparrals. So one of those in good shape with the right hours and right price would be it. There are some out there but I am just having trouble getting responses. Sooo close yet so far away.




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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 02:53 PM


You seen this one yet? Fresh water MO boat. Maybe a little under powered for you, but an '03, 26' (with windows) 9.5 wide, in your price range...no trailer though.

http://www.boats.com/boat-details/Bayliner-265-Ciera-Sunbrid...
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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 03:37 PM


Yep, the price point was too high since it would require buying a trailer.


Here is one I was just checking out online,
http://www.poweryachtsinternational.com/Vehicle/location-Flo... (claims fresh water)
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2000-Sea-Ray-260-Sundancer...
Click the poweryacht link above and look at the pics... Looks pretty nice. I had been shying away from 2000s and was sticking with the 01s, 02s, etc. but this looks nice and many of you seem to think these are boats that would hold up better.

Has everything on my list except the wider beam and windows I was liking more on the Bayliners.





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Crap, I saw them talking about trailering but I don't see a trailer (did I miss it) and that would be even more $$$$. nevermind



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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 03:48 PM


Anyone have a detour sign for E's yard to point to Laurel??

No wait I can't do that to the good people at Laurel. CHIT!!!!!

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[*] posted on 4-26-2012 at 06:45 PM


Anyone have a cordless drill for that ugly bird boat a state? :cool:

No wait, I can't have that done to mother nature... :D

That boat could use some TIDE

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