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Cabin foundation repair
I'm a newbie here and know this is a little off topic from all the fun stuff on the lake. However, thought there might be enough of you out there who
own cabins or homes on the water, built on rocky hillsides who might be able to help. I bought my cabin 3 years ago for a song...knowing full well
that there were foundation issues. Floors slopes towards the water- the concrete block foundation never had a good footer underneath it. (Probably
dug by hand.) It's almost 40 years old and on the Big South Fork (McCreary Co.) at Turkey Creek. Does anyone know of a reputable company that could
repair/replace this for me? I'd like to enlarge the cabin at the same time, with hopes of making it a 3 season home. Any recommendations would be
greatly appreciated! Need to get this done and out of the way so I can boat!
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Sounds like we are Neighbors. Where are you exactly?
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treewoman
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Near the Turkey Creek boat ramp, at the bottom of 927
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A big forum welcome to you treewoman! We're glad to have you on board with us.
Don't worry about distracting from the fun stuff. We get serious sometimes too. 
Hopefully somebody can help you out here. Sorry I don't know a soul.
GUYS lets help a newbie out here???
WHATEVER floats your boat Dude!
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treewoman
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Thanks for the welcome, WaterWings!
I have heard there are methods using drilling and making piers or something like that, but probably cost more than I paid for the place. Also don't
know if anyone does that in this area.
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I'm guessing next door to Ty.
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Treewoman, we recently built on to our cabin but we are over by conley. I have some names and phone numbers of the local guys we used out of
Monticello. If you don't think they are to far away send me a u2u and I will get you the info.
Also, we just dug down until we hit solid rock and then poured a footer on top. It worked out really well.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by abigail
I'm guessing next door to Ty. |
yes, I'm right next door to Ty. Wow, are you a spy? Ha ha.
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Fall Creek- ha, I don't even know what u2u is, I'm so new. Sitting on rock is probably part of the problem; the rock may have moved in the past
40years. I don't think there's any recent movement, but this place was neglected for so long it's hard to tell. Seems like people just bought it,
used it for a few years and never took care of it, then sold it to someone else. It's hard to overcome 40 years of neglect. Did you just add on, or
did you have sloping floors and bulging foundation like I have?
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Not a spy, just knew your foundation had problems. We looked at that house way before you did, good luck!!
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I'm the cabin around the ramp going south, cove to the right with boat dock. Last or first cabin on Lake Cumberland depending on what direction you
are traveling.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by treewoman
Fall Creek- ha, I don't even know what u2u is, I'm so new. Sitting on rock is probably part of the problem; the rock may have moved in the past
40years. I don't think there's any recent movement, but this place was neglected for so long it's hard to tell. Seems like people just bought it,
used it for a few years and never took care of it, then sold it to someone else. It's hard to overcome 40 years of neglect. Did you just add on, or
did you have sloping floors and bulging foundation like I have? |
Ok treewoman, u2u is the little green button at the bottom of my post. If you click on it you can send me a private message.
We just added on to our cabin but I am sure you should be able to sure up your foundation. If you have a bulging foundation maybe they can pour a
concrete wall next to it to sure it up. Good luck
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Thanks, I'm heading down there today, so we'll see if I can get some people out to look at it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Fall Creek
| Quote: | Originally posted by treewoman
Fall Creek- ha, I don't even know what u2u is, I'm so new. Sitting on rock is probably part of the problem; the rock may have moved in the past
40years. I don't think there's any recent movement, but this place was neglected for so long it's hard to tell. Seems like people just bought it,
used it for a few years and never took care of it, then sold it to someone else. It's hard to overcome 40 years of neglect. Did you just add on, or
did you have sloping floors and bulging foundation like I have? |
Ok treewoman, u2u is the little green button at the bottom of my post. If you click on it you can send me a private message.
We just added on to our cabin but I am sure you should be able to sure up your foundation. If you have a bulging foundation maybe they can pour a
concrete wall next to it to sure it up. Good luck |
Sounds like the "DAM" - maybe be moving, maybe could put in a concrete wall to stop it - Wonder if the COE would let their guys help out???? 
Kept moving southwest, til I found someplace to rest....and I guess that must be ELI
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When they built our house they dug till they hit rock and poured concrete to level it out the best they could. We haven't had any problems. They guy
that does all of our building for us is Jackie Mann With Mann construction 270-343-3237 Not sure if your close enough to him but give him a call, he
does great work and is very fair on pricing.
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sitting next to you saying, "dam...that was fun! - Anonymous"
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thanks for all the replies and support. I think we found a guy who can test the situation out and see if it works at a reasonable price. Nothing
wrong with the cabin, just the original builders who didn't put in much of a footer/foundation and obviously didn't think into the future. Seems
people build "weekend" homes and dont' care how stable they are. I for one don't want to worry about how stable my cabin is, whether it is part time
or full time.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by abigail
I'm the cabin around the ramp going south, cove to the right with boat dock. Last or first cabin on Lake Cumberland depending on what direction you
are traveling. |
Are you at related to Billy? we call that place "Billy's Place", I think he's friend of Ty's?
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That would be me, that is Will's Cove in front of the cabin. Go CATS!!!
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That's a beautiful setting- can't see the cabin but you sure have a lovely, private location. Foundation repair is underway, week 2 completed.
Found a good guy with a good crew to tackle it. I'm very pleased. It was a little unsettling to watch them jack it up, remove the existing
foundation (over 1/2 of it) and have it sitting on temporary supports, but it's going great and they are rebuilding the wall underneath. Hope to have
it close to completion by end of next week. hooray! Then remove the old cistern sitting to the side of the cabin, and replace the roof, then it's
time to get the boat out on the water!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by treewoman
I'm a newbie here and know this is a little off topic from all the fun stuff on the lake. However, thought there might be enough of you out there who
own cabins or homes on the water, built on rocky hillsides who might be able to help. |
Actually this is a quite relevant topic as most of us on LC who own cabins are on rocky, sloping hillsides with thin soil. There is a geological term
called overland creep (I think) and sooner or later we'll all have to deal with it. Soil is affected by gravity and behaves like a liquid.
If you put a telephone pole on a hillside, eventually, over many years it will no longer be vertical but will end up on an angle as the soil flows
downhill. My 60 year old cabin is still holding steady...but please let us know the details if you find a good service and what all is involved as far
as cost and extent of work done.
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So far, so good. After 3 weeks, I have a new basement nearing completion. About 2/3 of the cabin underneath was crawl space, and about 1/3 basement.
They supported the riverside of the cabin (where the basement was) with 6x6's everywhere and jacked the cabin up about 2 to 2 1/2 inches. Removed all
the existing block under there, dug a new footer and poured that and then laid new block. The block goes up about 4 ft. on the inner wall and steps
down to one row around the whole basement.
Then they built fourteen 6x6 pier supports on the top of the block, and leveled the cabin on those. Inbetween are 2x6 (all wood is treated lumber.)
Treated 1/2 inch plywood going on outside wall, which we will eventually cover with either the same wood siding on the upper part of the cabin, or
more likely stucco. New door going in, and 3 windows. Drainage pipe behind the inner wall and then filled with gravel, and dug out along side of
cabin and laid drainage pipe and covered with gravel. All block below grade was waterproofed before filling with gravel.
So, I think we've done everything we can to keep water away, and built a good footer to support everything. We told them to OVERBUILD everything. The
original cause of this was that someone built that back part incorrectly- they poured a slab for the basement part, and laid block on top of the slab
with no footer! When water creeped in there over years (mostly due to previous owners' neglect of the place) the slab eventually cracked and slid the
cabin about 3", which caused the basement walls to fail.
Keep your fingers crossed that all goes well this week! Should be finished up in a couple days...then on to a new roof!
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This thread made me think of those houses on the side of the cliff near LFM marina. I'd be a litle leery of investing in one of those. They look as if
they could slide off at any moment.
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Everything turned out great; very happy with the new foundation and stability. It might have held for another 40 years, but I didn't want to take
that chance. Only downer is that now that I've sunk more money in the place, suddenly I have a renter next door parking their primed car on the deck
(how dangerous is that?), a refrigerator outside on their deck, and throwing their garbage bags over the deck (probably never to be retreived again.)
And, a pop up camper set up in the driveway with a couple guys living it. It has really trashed up the neighborhood. Very depressing. This was a
really nice street and a peaceful getaway before. UGH.
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Quote: Originally posted by treewoman  | | I have a renter next door parking their primed car on the deck (how dangerous is that?), a refrigerator outside on their deck, and throwing their
garbage bags over the deck (probably never to be retreived again.) And, a pop up camper set up in the driveway with a couple guys living it. It
has really trashed up the neighborhood. Very depressing. This was a really nice street and a peaceful getaway before. UGH. |
Sounds perfectly normal. My family's had a place at LC since my grandparents built it in 1950. Our experience has been that, at any given time,
there's always one bad apple in the neighborhood. If the guy with the primed car moves out...I guarantee you another just like him will move in. It's
a given!!!
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That is exactly the reason my nearest neighbor is over a mile. I will be over soon to see if I can make some changes. The SHERIFF will take care of
things. Some pics of things would be great.
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