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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 03:08 PM
Lake Cumberland's biggest caves (list)


Source: Kentucky Speleological Survey

Caves of 1 or more miles of *surveyed* passageways.

Cave Name - County - Length - Depth

1/ Sloans Valley Cave System - Pulaski Co. - 24.64 miles - 240'

2/ Coral Cave System - Pulaski Co. - 22.56 miles - 340'

3/ Cave Creek Cave System - Pulaski Co. - 15.01 miles - 170'

4/ Wells Cave - Pulaski Co. - 11.496 miles - 350.5'

5/ Long Hollow (Dyke's Mud & Slime) Cave System - 7.497 miles - 235'

6/ Farmer System #1 (Docs, Highline, Overlook, Farmer) - Pulaski Co. - 7.197 miles - 235'

7/ Grayson Gunnar Cave - Wayne Co. - 7.03 miles - n/a

8/ Jugornot Cave - Pulaski Co. - 5.95 miles - 262'

9/ White Lobster Cave - Pulaski Co. - 3.977 miles - 69'

10/ Farmer System #2 (Aframe, Marge White) - 2.943 miles - 166'

11/ Sally Turpin Hollow Cave - Wayne Co. - 2.92 miles - 200'

12/ Wind Cave - Pulaski Co. - 2.89 miles - 102'

13/ Triple-S Cave - Wayne Co. - 2.796 miles - 192'

14/ Newell Spring Cave - Pulaski Co. - 2.734 miles - n/a

15/ Big Sink Cave - Pulaski Co. - 2.485 miles - n/a

16/ Burfield (Blue Hole)(Johnson Fork) Cave - Wayne Co. - 2.38 miles - 128'

17/ Blowing Cave - Wayne Co. - 2.361 miles - 386'

18/ Barnett - Waters Folly Cave System - Pulaski Co. - 2.243 miles - 382'

19/ Logan-Greensnake Cave - Pulaski Co. - 2.175 miles - n/a

20/ Main Drain Cave - Pulaski Co. - 2.01 miles - 44'

21/ Farmer System #3 (Trash, Triple Pit) - Pulaski Co. - 2.003 - 167'

22/ Hail Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.902 miles - 130'

23/ Slide-In Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.864 miles - n/a

24/ Flynn (Sulpher Mtn) Cave - Wayne Co. - 1.74 miles - 42'

25/ Farmer System #4 (Nameless) - Pulaski Co. - 1.714 miles - 118'

26/ Red Goose Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.54 miles - n/a

27/ Eureka Cave - McCreary Co. - 1.466 miles - n/a

28/ Stykes Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.355 miles - 125'

29/ Kneeshredder Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.349 miles - 56'

30/ Canyon Complex (Marys Hole) Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.25 miles - n/a

31/ Slagel Cave - Wayne Co. - 1.181 miles - 56'

32/ Church Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.167 miles - n/a

33/ Punkin Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.16 miles - 35'

34/ A-Frame Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.14 miles - 140'

35/ Sawdust Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.14 miles - 100'

36/ Coal Trace Cave - Wayne Co. - 1.02 miles - 97'

37/ Ranch Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1.01 miles - 200'

38/ Reclining Budda Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1 mile - n/a

39/ Neelys Creek Cave - Pulaski Co. - 1 miles - n/a

Note: There are many more caves in the region. These represent only those with surveyed records.

LINK: Kentucky Long Cave List
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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 03:47 PM


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Yes. we'd prefer to hear about Lake Cumberlsnd area caves. This isn't a caving web site.



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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 04:09 PM


These are Lake Cumberland area caves, which was my point. Now.. let's hear some stories about them.
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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 06:58 PM


The Minton Hollar entrance is a great starter caving experince I think .We take kids with us that are as young as 7 or 8 . It's a nice hike underground. There are losts of creatures ranging from cave crickets to bats. Ive caught albino crawdads, waterdogs and crickets to show kids that would have never seen anything like that before much less touch! The bats are really cool, they are hibernating when we go, so you have to be really careful not to knock them off, if you do they will die. The moisture forms all over them so they look like they have frost on them, and with your headlamp shining on the bat and the cave ceiling it's awsome. We always pack our lunch and when we get to the break-down, [a caved-in area], we light our candles pick a spot to sit and we have lunch with our flashlights off. When everyone is done eating we make sure all trash is picked up and we let the kids explore a little. The kids enjoy this part because us adults can't fit our bodies through the small opening to the other side of the break-down and besides we are ready to relax after eating ! We all count-off like we do before we even enter the cave and head out. When we reach sunlight again we count off again so nobody gets left behind. These are memories for a lifetime for most of us.
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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 08:46 PM


Minton County? There is no Minton County in Kentucky. Got any tales about Lake Cumberland region caves?
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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 09:20 PM


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Minton County? There is no Minton County in Kentucky. Got any tales about Lake Cumberland region caves?


I don't think they are catching on Cumberline. Perhaps a map of the area might ring some bells.:D:D:D




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[*] posted on 3-15-2007 at 11:33 PM


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The Minton County entrance is a great starter caving experince I think .We take kids with us that are as young as 7 or 8 . It's a nice hike underground. There are losts of creatures ranging from cave crickets to bats. Ive caught albino crawdads, waterdogs and crickets to show kids that would have never seen anything like that before much less touch! The bats are really cool, they are hibernating when we go, so you have to be really careful not to knock them off, if you do they will die. The moisture forms all over them so they look like they have frost on them, and with your headlamp shining on the bat and the cave ceiling it's awsome. We always pack our lunch and when we get to the break-down, [a caved-in area], we light our candles pick a spot to sit and we have lunch with our flashlights off. When everyone is done eating we make sure all trash is picked up and we let the kids explore a little. The kids enjoy this part because us adults can't fit our bodies through the small opening to the other side of the break-down and besides we are ready to relax after eating ! We all count-off like we do before we even enter the cave and head out. When we reach sunlight again we count off again so nobody gets left behind. These are memories for a lifetime for most of us.




hi people
you wanted to hear local caving storys,,,,now you have one,,,and also give me a reason to post,,,,,,,,let me start by apologizing to any one i might offend, this is not ment to be a personal attack in any form............i am going to pick this post as the reason cavers dont give out info to people who are not versed in proper caving techniques,,,,,,

"The Minton County entrance is a great starter caving experince I think.We take kids with us that are as young as 7 or 8 . It's a nice hike underground.",,,,,,this actually is a lakecumberland cave, he is referring to the minton hollow entrance to sloans valley cave (south of burnside).............

"There are lots of creatures ranging from cave crickets to bats. Ive caught albino crawdads, waterdogs and crickets to show kids that would have never seen anything like that before much less touch".......blind cave crawfish are a protected species, something so simple as touching them could lead to their deaths (oily fingers)

"The bats are really cool, they are hibernating when we go, so you have to be really careful not to knock them off, if you do they will die. The moisture forms all over them so they look like they have frost on them, and with your headlamp shining on the bat and the cave ceiling it's awsome."..........the bats that are being referred to are called pipastreal bats, the most common bat in KY (they eat their body weight a day in bugs).......when bats are hibernating a caver would not enter the cave and risk waking up the bats (doing so could/will wake them and cause their deaths)

"We always pack our lunch and when we get to the breakdown, [a caved-in area], we light our candles pick a spot to sit and we have lunch with our flashlights off. When everyone is done eating we make sure all trash is picked up "..
^5,congrats and thank you for being responsible and removing all trace,,cavers leave nothing but foot prints and take nothing but pictures......

"we let the kids explore a little. The kids enjoy this part because us adults can't fit our bodies through the small opening to the other side of the breakdown and besides we are ready to relax after eating !"..........................OK, this is where the big problem could start, letting lil cavers explore where the adults/responsable cavers cant fit is a huge mistake.what happens when one of them (breaks their leg,arm.finger, or gets lost?) ??????? the adults will be of absolutely no use to them if they (the adults) can not fit to where the lil cavers are.



and on a more positive note, i have invited Mr. softcrawl to go caving with me/us ,, the offer still stands,,,,,i also will extend the offer to any one who wants to go caving and learn responsible caving techniques.
these are but a few of the reasons cavers wont over share info..............and hopefully this post will not be taken as a personial attack,,it by no means is......
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[*] posted on 3-16-2007 at 07:14 AM


Now we're getting somewhere. :)

Very good information, kycaver666. My apologies to softcrawl for misunderstanding the location of the cave you were describing, and thanks for taking the time to post.

I wonder how the "pro" cavers began their enjoyment of the caving experience? How long before they understood the ecological, geological and archeological ramifications of interacting with the underground environment.

And I'd still like to hear some descriptions of exploring the region's vast cave systems. They don't have to say where the cave is, but it would be nice to understand what it is like down there. I also believe such can be used to educate the lay public as well.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2007 at 07:27 AM


For the experts:

I have two questions based on the list above, which came from the Kentucky Speliological Society and was based on Bob Guiden's list from caverbob.com

1/ Eureka Cave in McCreary County is listed with a depth of 374 meters on that list. That translates to 1,227 feet. While I think that may be theoretically possible in a McCreary County highland cave, I still question it as extraordinarily deep, and possibly record-setting. It does not seem likely to me to be an accurate depth. What do you think?

2/ Coal Trace Cave in Wayne County is listed with a depth of 9.8 meters, which is 32 feet. Yet the explorers described the height of the large room as 90 feet. This seems to be an anomaly in facts.
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Hey kycaver, I don't mind being used as an example to educate others.
I do need to clarify a few things though: One of the "kids" is a 25 year old Eagle Scout and a mentor to one of the younger ones, there are other adults that can fit through the opening of the break down. OK,OK
my fat butt won't fit![ha ha] We do avoid the bats when possible, the person in front lets us know to go around any that we can. We always go in Feb. I was told because of the possibility of flooding, when do the bats come out of hibernation? I would love to go caving again and learn the correct way to explore caves!
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[*] posted on 3-16-2007 at 06:21 PM


Cumberline ,sorry for the mistake I edited my post to read Minton Hollar.
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For the experts:

I have two questions based on the list above, which came from the Kentucky Speliological Society and was based on Bob Guiden's list from caverbob.com

1/ Eureka Cave in McCreary County is listed with a depth of 374 meters on that list. That translates to 1,227 feet. While I think that may be theoretically possible in a McCreary County highland cave, I still question it as extraordinarily deep, and possibly record-setting. It does not seem likely to me to be an accurate depth. What do you think?

2/ Coal Trace Cave in Wayne County is listed with a depth of 9.8 meters, which is 32 feet. Yet the explorers described the height of the large room as 90 feet. This seems to be an anomaly in facts.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2007 at 04:03 PM


I think they made typos when they copied from my web site.
Coal Trace has 97 feet of vert.
Eureka - I have no data on the depth so is listed as 0'

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I think they made typos when they copied from my web site.
Coal Trace has 97 feet of vert.
Eureka - I have no data on the depth so is listed as 0'

http://www.caverbob.com/home.htm


Thanks, I have corrected the list in the first post of this thread. Always best to get from the original source. :)
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Hey kycaver, I don't mind being used as an example to educate others.
I do need to clarify a few things though: One of the "kids" is a 25 year old Eagle Scout and a mentor to one of the younger ones, there are other adults that can fit through the opening of the break down. OK,OK
my fat butt won't fit![ha ha] We do avoid the bats when possible, the person in front lets us know to go around any that we can. We always go in Feb. I was told because of the possibility of flooding, when do the bats come out of hibernation? I would love to go caving again and learn the correct way to explore caves!



Hiya Softcrawl
In Kentucky it is a generally accepted thought that bats stop hibernation by the last week of April. I/we am/are the key holder/s to several caves on DBNF property and I/we unlock said caves last wk end of April (according to DBNF regs).DBNF gates some caves to protect endangered species of bats.

Also good clarification of your previous posts......much safer than it first came across.

The previous invitation to take interested parties caving still stands,u2u me for details.
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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 10:20 AM


While looking on Topix for the "local" discussion on the smoking ban I saw this thread and thought some might find it interesting.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/somerset-ky/TVAOTL2G0UF41LMK...




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[*] posted on 1-31-2012 at 11:18 AM


After reading the list, I couln't help but wonder if there is any 'stable' ground in Pulaski,Co.?:D



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